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Coal Minning Jobs, Proposition 187 Becoming the Law of the Land

Question:
Very possibly not. Vested interests have long worked against severe control, the presence of illegals had to go to extreme levels, such as in California, before the population reacted. The ultimate problem is jobs. Here in France we have a problem, but the job situation is difficult. Identity papers exists and its takes a special situation for one to obtain a job as a legal entry. I know, I did it. But is was not easy. From here it looks rather easy to get into the USA, once in, one is protected by the legal system. It takes a while to deport (here is it can be done 24 hours.

I think that the following would aid controling the number of illegals in the USA

1. National identity cards for both nationals and green card holders

2. Yearly renewal of green cards holders made more difficult.

3. Social security number varification available. One number per person for life, severe penalties for multiple numbers of use of another person's number.

4. Severe penalties for knowingly employing illegals.

5. Rapid deportation of illegals who are held until deportation.


Answer:
You arguments sound like you want de facto slavery to continue in America. If people are making 80 cents to 2 dollars an hour as you suggest, then they are modern day slaves.

One can pay higher wages, if they used the appropriate technology to justify them in the world marketplace. I firmly believe we will see a further rationalization of people in the farming industry accelerated by the invention of robots to do the labor intensive jobs. One need on look at the automobile industry where roots are now doing many dirty jobs once the province of human beings. There is no doubt in my mind that you see bigger and bigger farms using modern equipment.

My equipment modernization scenario is not new, considering both of my grandfathers left rural Virginia farming at the turn of the Century because machines replaced many field hands. They landed better jobs in the coal minds of West Virginia - perhaps not the cleanest jobs.

As someone who lives along the border and a Latin American History student, I believe the issue of immigration from Mexico is more complex then they're here, we don't want them, kick em' out. Mexican immigration to this country rose during the years 1910-1920, partly due to a series of revolutions in Mexico, but also due to American encouragment. In the Southwest, many jobs were filled by "illegal" immigrants while our citizens were off fighting World War One. At the conclusion of the war, owners of farms in Texas, New Mexico, California (and a few in other states) placed ads in Mexican newspapers recruiting farm laborers. This still goes on today. A newer tactic involves the sending of "agents" into Mexico to find workers. We welcome the laborers with open arms but when the harvest has come to an end, often they are left out in the cold (literally). If people don't want the government to pay for them, than talk to the employers who exploit their labor and abandon them. This is not to say all companies do this, just that among the Mexican migrant worker communities it is not uncommon. Anyway, try to see what the border means on both sides. The communities on the U.S. side depend on Mexico just as much as Mexico depends on the U.S.



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