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Careers In Mining, Still more (?) better (?) alternative careers.....

Question:
Over the last couple of years I've spread around here information about alternative jobs/careers where the pay ain't too bad but you don't need a PhD or spend ten years in low paid "preparation" for a highly specialized occupation that has low lateral transferabilty, as much or more age-discrimination hazards as anything else, politics, and a short career half-life.


Answer:
Your idea of aircraft mechanics is pretty good. I am very mechanically inclined. I live near an air port.. 2 years of training seems miniscule to the 20 years of "training" I have gone through for a phd job.. and still no hope of over 30 k per year.

If you get the gumption, maybe drive over there and "nose around" and see if you can "network" yourself into contact with some people who might tell you where these guys get off work, what exit gate, what time, and on the way out try to nail a couple and find out what the deal is. I think I know where I'm going to wind up on my expanded business, but you can blow off these BLS statistics that say no-B.S. degree average wages are $25K or so, and those NSF stats that say PhD ave wages are $70K, and just keep your eyes open for gossip, rumors, ....anything about decent jobs at the higher end of the pay scale.

Also, of note, a Dupont Nylon factory in southern Delaware (Seaford) is laying off 900 people. The newspaper article I read went into lots of data on the people there and the thing that struck me was that the average pay for the whole factory was, (and I wish I could find the newspaper article), in the low $50Ks. Now that is a factory! Most of those guys were there all their lives and surely got decent COLA increments, too. Most of the guys getting laid off are in their 50s, too. I'm sure they are not hiring. Buuuuuut, again, my point is that there are decent jobs with quite decent pay out there....you just have to find them, then decide to try to make a play for one of them (Then pray they don't lay you off before you retire [but its better than one year appointments and funding uncertainty based on one year budgets]).

When you talk about coal mining, you have to talk about two completely differenttopics. Underground coal and surface coal are about as different as night and day. Underground is typically (at least in Appalachia) thin seams of coal where you're lucky to be able to crouch, let alone stand. You're dusty and dirty, your lungs are full of coal dust, you have the constant threat of roof-falls .... In fact, the coal-dust explosions that make the news are one of the less-likely hazards of the job. (A former college classmate works for the Mine Safety and Health Administration. She says the coal accident investigators earn every penny of their salary with what they see of the aftermath of an accident.)

Surface coal is a completely different world - open air, minimal worry about explosions, most jobs highly automated. In fact, in some of them you get to run some of the biggest industrial equipment you've ever seen. Running one of those draglines at an open pit coal mine is like driving a naval destroyer (they use the same things in Florida for the phosphate mines), and they're about the same size. They take a lot of training, and the people that run them are well paid. However, I really don't find a job where all you do is scoop up the bucket, turn left, empty the bucket, turn right, start over, to be all that interesting.

Your quote doesn't say where Mr. Damron's mine is, but I'm guessing somewhere in Appalachia. If so, there are a lot of other factors going into his trouble in hiring someone besides just the unpleasant nature of the business. He'd be in an area where family ties go back many generations, and a lot of those people cannot even conceive of moving over the next ridge, let alone into another state.

Mining also tends to take place in remote locations, which is not exactly attractive to people interested in raising a family. And you have to keep in mind the fact that whatever you're mining, it's a finite resource. Eventually you will dig up everything of value, and at that point your facing a ghost-town. You don't even have to have dug up the entire deposit, either. Let someone in Brazil discover a richer deposit, and their lower mining costs will more than pay for the extra cost of shipping the stuff to this country. (This has actually happened to the US iron ore industry.)



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